Marcelyn 154 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Check out this link for a news article about Panama's ex-president http://panamaadvisoryinternationalgroup.com/blog/news-from-panama/panamas-fugitive-ex-president-ordered-out-of-paraguay/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keith Woolford 666 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 This is an excellent synopsis of the current situation by Eric Jackson of The Panama News. http://www.thepanamanews.com/2015/12/will-martinelli-be-behind-bars-by-christmas-the-next-steps/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoJo 4 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I agree, I read that post this morning and as always Eric boils it all down so we can all understand what's happening. Thanks for posting it here Keith. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marcelyn 154 Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 This is indeed a detail account by Eric Jackson -- not sure I understand all the possibilities of what could happen in this Martinelli case. I'm beginning to think the man plus his eight lawyers might win this fight. Sometimes lots of money has a loud voice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roger B 241 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 18 minutes ago, Marcelyn said: This is indeed a detail account by Eric Jackson -- not sure I understand all the possibilities of what could happen in this Martinelli case. I'm beginning to think the man plus his eight lawyers might win this fight. Sometimes lots of money has a loud voice. There is an old saying in Spanish that will read in English something like: "Powerful gentleman is Mr. Money". "Poderoso caballero es Don Dinero". Money can do a lot of things in favor of the owner of the money. It could buy everything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brundageba 547 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Yes...and he has a mighty big pile of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoJo 4 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 5 hours ago, Roger B said: There is an old saying in Spanish that will read in English something like: "Powerful gentleman is Mr. Money". "Poderoso caballero es Don Dinero". Money can do a lot of things in favor of the owner of the money. It could buy everything. I would be VERY disappointed in the Panamanian Judicial System if this man does not have to appear in court to either justify what he has done or pay the price for what he has done. It's obvious he's trying to buy everyone off but not everyone is able to be bought. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hil 70 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 If a warrant is issued and interpol is advised to hold------he will have to leave the U.S. or they will extradite him. They were talking warrant last Friday. I can't wait until tomorrow for the real deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoJo 4 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 8 minutes ago, Hil said: If a warrant is issued and interpol is advised to hold------he will have to leave the U.S. or they will extradite him. They were talking warrant last Friday. I can't wait until tomorrow for the real deal. INTERPOL's authority is actually limited to passing on requests for arrests and extraditions, which may or may not be honored by national governments. So it would be up to the US whether or not to arrest and extradite Martinelli. At least that's how I understand it. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hil 70 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Panama would make the request. Probably a treaty thing also. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hil 70 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 One other request has already been made to Interpol for one of Martinelli's crook friends. I forgot his name. He left quick after Varela took office. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bonnie 603 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) Read Eric Jackson's explanation of the situation. He has researched and covered all the bases, the ins and outs of the extradition process. http://www.thepanamanews.com/2015/12/will-martinelli-be-behind-bars-by-christmas-the-next-steps/ Edited December 13, 2015 by Bonnie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoJo 4 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Yes, that's where this thread by Keith started Bonnie. I agree, in my opinion Eric has a pretty good handle on the pulse of the political goings on in Panama and makes it easier to understand. He does his homework. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keith Woolford 666 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 The attached letter is Ricardo Martinelli's response to Friday's hearing which he addressed to the citizens of Panama. Still in total denial of any wrongdoing, and claiming political persecution, it doesn't look like he's going anywhere without a fight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hil 70 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 TV2 Live Coverage Of debate For Martinelli Warrant The are in recess at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoJo 4 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 TV2 Live Coverage Of debate For Martinelli Warrant What's to debate? More knuckle dragging. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hil 70 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 It's about time. They did the deal. A warrant is being issued. http://www.newsroompanama.com/news/panama/court-orders-martinelli-detention Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoJo 4 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 TV2 Live Coverage Of debate For Martinelli Warrant About time! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keith Woolford 666 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 The decision by Panama's CSJ to issue an arrest warrant for ex-President Martinelli doesn't necessarily mean we'll be seeing him back here in Panama anytime soon. He's still belligerently Tweeting and Instant Messaging his claims of innocence and persecution to anyone who will listen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keith Woolford 666 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Couple of RM quotes today that demonstrate his attitude. "I will go in the appropriate political moment or after the tyrant exits": Martinelli Ricardo Martinelli @rmartinelli 4m4 minutes ago Without any proof nor being mentioned, syndicared ,notified or accused I am being seek by Panama funny political judicial system. Poor Pty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marcelyn 154 Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 I've noticed recent news releases are vague regarding true whereabouts of Martinelli. Reminds me of a recent conversation with several people in New Orleans when one man told the story that Martinelli (who is a landowner in Paraguay) was kicked out of that country by the Paraguanian government. Martinelli was later refused entrance to Spain. And so the stories continue -- who knows the real answer of where Martinelli is? One thing to issue an arrest warrant for ex-President Martinelli, but if he can't be found what then. Does Panama have procedures that allow for a trial in absentia? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keith Woolford 666 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 He's living in Miami, not really hiding. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-09-17/from-miami-s-scarface-pad-an-exiled-billionaire-fights-back Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoJo 4 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Been there for some time and most everyone knows it too. Well with the exception of the political powers that be in Panama because they really don't want to know it seems. Makes one wonder who he's paying off to play dumb. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keith Woolford 666 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) If politicians were running the judiciary we would all be in trouble, and just because RM's whereabouts are known doesn't mean he can be picked up. In order to avoid the appearance of political persecution, every effort is being made to follow establish correct procedure in this case, for which there are no precedents. Every appeal has been heard, every opportunity to appear has been given. The very people he appointed to the Supreme Court are the ones who are indicting him. This is only the first of six cases pending, btw. Edited December 22, 2015 by Keith Woolford Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoJo 4 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 True Keith, meant to say Judicial powers, not political. Martinelli keeps going on about political persecution and that's where I got off track. I hope they are able to arrest him, get him back to Panama to face all of the charges against him. For a man that thinks he's so smart, he's sure playing dumb. Without any proof nor being mentioned, syndicared ,notified or accused I am being seek by Panama funny political judicial system. Poor Pty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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